Opera-Browser Evangelist Perspective

Posted: May 17, 2009 at 12:01:02 by Dani Iswara. Words count: 384.
Last updated: May 18, 2009 at 11:27:07.

We were not talking about an open source and proprietary one. If you were looking for a better web browser on the earth, try Opera. Need some opinion? Here are Opera evangelist perspective. On this post, you will find Opera users experiences from their thoughts. I am not a routine Opera user. Nor the opposite of them. So, I just post their stories here. We were learning from their best practices. The old one, wrote on 2004, updated at the end of 2008. Still very impressive. Opera and Gunlaug:
An important point though, is that no standard compliant browser adds much to the workload when Opera says a page is good. I'll leave out the non standard compliant browsers, as they will always need some attention — or I will just have to ignore them.
In my opinion, it's true by now. Opera is one of the most web standards browser.

Browser's new features? Opera did it first!

Did you think those new features on recent browsers are that cool enough? One of a big player in propietary browser industry, Apple's Safari (4 beta), got some negative reviews. View on Gunlaug's post, Safari (web browser) dissected by Molly. Read also Safari and Opera, The Facts by Indonesian web developer, Yeni Setiawan. Yes, he is a man, not a woman. :) And read their opinion for another WebKit-based browser:
Opera CEO Jon von Tetzchner doesn’t seem to concerned with the newly launched Google Chrome browser. In fact he finds it kind of flattering that Google is copying many of Opera’s innovative features. Source: More reaction from Opera CEO on Google Chrome by Daniel Goldman.
Honestly, Opera is the most lightweight (their installer too), web standards, completed by default, the fastest, free, and easy to use (usable and related to accessibility features) browser right now. Slightly different to Safari. Haven't sure yet? Read their recent development on Opera Core Concerns, an official blog for Opera's core developers. No, this is not the other browser war! On Opera: The browser wars? Over!, Bruce Lawson, another Opera and web standards evangelist, said something like 'Browsers should focus on web standards also. Internet Explorer will agree with them'. Need for more (sure)? Point your browser to Blog of Opera Indonesia. For a while, I'll stick with Fx. :) Just unessential weblog
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  1. Comment by Cahya on May 17, 2009 at 19:29:22
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Windows Vista

    Opera memang tangguh sebagai sebuah paket, all in one, ah..., tapi aku tetap suka Firefox dengan Personas-nya (bukan: pesona) apalagi melihat rubah kecil yang berguling-guling di Hanami dengan latar hijau rumput..., itu membuat browsing menjadi lebih "menyenangkan". :D

  2. Comment by nomercy on May 17, 2009 at 21:29:16
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Windows Vista

    yang jelas kalau mau melihat suatu web dengan standar terbaru harus memakai browser terbaru pula ...
    untuk kelengkapan kompatibilitas memang opera dapat diandalkan ... selain itu fitur all in onenya lebih memudahkan user ...
    namun kenapa ya saya sampai sekarang masih juga lebih menyukai memakai browser dengan engine gecko ... hehehe :) ... dan paling gak mau browsing pakai ie ...

  3. Comment by d3ptzz on May 17, 2009 at 23:22:24
    using Firefox 3.0.8 on Windows XP

    saya merasa lebih nyaman menggunaka firefox. dan menurut pengalaman saya pribadi, firefox lebih cepat daripada opera..:D

  4. Comment by Dani Iswara on May 18, 2009 at 05:39:55
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Gentoo

    Cahya,
    IMO, sebenernya Opera ngga layak dibandingin langsung dg fx, krn dia browser suite (browser, mail, chat; all in one) tanpa perlu ekstensi. penasaran aja kenapa yg make masi kurang banyak. :)

    nomercy,
    kalo make standar web yg backward compatible, mestinya masi aman kan pak.. :)

    d3ptzz,
    silakan preferensi masing-2.. :)
    ada widget buat facebook jg lho

  5. Comment by Cahya on May 18, 2009 at 23:08:38
    using Google Chrome 2.0.170.0 on Windows Vista

    Oh ya Bli Dani, saya minta dijelasin tentang acidtest dong, kemarin baca artikelnya malah ga mudeng, tentang kompatibiltas peramban gitu :D, koq malah artikelnya nyelonong ke Safari ya yang paling banyak lolos test, padahal dulu Safari sering error saat browsing :D

    Trims...

  6. Comment by uwiuw on May 18, 2009 at 23:49:15
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Windows XP

    yeah yeah dasar fanatik opera wakakak hidup firefox apapun yg terjadi sama dunia persilatan. hahhahaha ampun, dan, jangan dimarahin :D

    dan, awas ya, sy bakal bantah argumen kamu dalam posting saya (walau dalam hati iya sih opera lebih ringan. da argumen di atas bener semua)

    tapi firefox punya kelebihan sendiri kok wahai temanku yg tersesat kedalam pesona opera. ada addon melimpah, support komunitas yg hebat, dan menguasai pasar. jadi bila ngoding, browser pertama tu seharusnya firefox bukan opera apalagi chrome

    percaya ? sy sendiri tidak hehehehehehe

  7. Comment by nomercy on May 19, 2009 at 00:01:49
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Windows Vista

    mas Dani ... kenapa kalau ada yg nulis dengan tag yg tidak ditutup/selesai blog jadi error gitu ya ... ada solusi gak?

  8. Comment by Dani Iswara on May 19, 2009 at 01:17:55
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Windows XP

    Cahya,
    sumbernya yg punya gawe bisa diliat di acid2 guide :) intinya test itu menguji pelbagai standar halaman web.
    opera, safari, dan fx yg katanya rajin terlibat. opera 9.6+, safari 3.1+, fx 3.1+ dah lolos acidtest3 kayaknya..cmiiw

    uwiuw,
    ngga fanatik opera kok, cuman mengakui keunggulannya aja.. :P
    coba aja opera itu open source, bukan proprietary, mungkin pengguna fx pada pindah ke opera semua :D

    lah kalo yg lolos acidtest3 itu opera ama safari versi stabil yg sudah beredar sekarang, kenapa make patokan fx 3.0.x yg blm lolos acidtest3 (baru sekitar 70% kayaknya)? :P

    ibaratnya kalo ngga dievaluasi (divalidasi (x)html dan css), gemana tau salahnya dimana dgn mudah.. :)
    kecuali mungkin make html5 yg lbh toleran dan backward compatible..
    [ah saya cuman asal ngomong aja kok..] :D

    nomercy,
    kalo blognya served as application/xhtml+xml (biasanya di xhtml 1.0, 1.1, 2.0; wp kayaknya ada pluginnya; IMO hal ini ngga perlu banget--mending html biar aman, saya jg cuman make blog ini sbg trial aja--blog ini kan versi beta terus), penulisan elemen xhtml (posting, comment, dll) perlu perhatian khusus krn DOCTYPE itu lbh strict (kec IE tetap membacanya sbg html, entah di IE yg baru), kalo ngga mau liat pesan xml parsing error.
    halaman xml error di (lagi-lagi) opera lbh mudah dimengerti dan informatif dibanding fx. :)

    utk di wp, biasanya bisa dgn nambal patch sanitasi-sterilisasi elemen dan karakter xhtml di wp-includes/kes.php ama /wp-comments-post.php..bisa liat-2 di bug trac-nya wp codex.
    karena belakangan ini w3c 'mengijinkan' xhtml disajikan sbg text/html, menurut hemat saya yg awam ini, lbh aman pake xhtml 1.0 transitional/strict sesuai default wp. :)

  9. Comment by Cahya on May 19, 2009 at 10:05:31
    using Safari 4.0 on Windows Vista

    Sedang coba jalan-jalan dengan Safari 4, hmm..., iya tulisannya memang lebih jelas terbaca dan pembukaan halaman web-nya terasa lebih cepat dari Firefox...

    Tapi ini baru permulaan, saya penasaran apa memang lebih nyaman browsing dengan Safari?

  10. Comment by Dani Iswara on May 19, 2009 at 14:32:23
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Gentoo

    Cahya,
    coba bandingin apple to apple dong..fx vs safari default tanpa ekstension, liat memori yg kepake, tes ke situs-2 flash, game online, tes acidtest, ada jg bbrp test javascript utk browsers:

  11. Comment by nomercy on May 19, 2009 at 19:40:29
    using Elinks 0.11.3 on Debian GNU/Linux

    yg sungguh mengherankan saya ketika baca di wiki dan beberap sites adalah kehebatan browser iris yg buat mobile ... kok bisa mencapai skor 100 pada acidtest3 ... padahal kan filenya kecil tuh, kalau dibandingkan dengan browser desktop yang besar2 ...

    oya, yg membuat ff paling disenangi mungkin karena stabil dan jarang sekali ada kendala saat browsing ... menurut pengalaman pribadi saya sendiri ketika pakai opera ternyata sedikit lambat saat loading awalnya ...

  12. Comment by Dani Iswara on May 19, 2009 at 20:48:00
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Gentoo

    nomercy,
    kalo mesinnya sesama WebKit (Safari) atau Presto (Opera), hasilnya sama-2 lolos acidtest3 kan, pak..

    fx (firefox abbreviation is fx or Fx; ff katanya utk final fantasy) :) biasanya crash kalo ketemu pengaya/plugin yg ngga kompatibel (kelebihan sekaligus kekurangan), seperti juga Opera di linux--sama-2 menyangkut library flash..

    sudah sama-2 clear cache, pak? :)

  13. Comment by nomercy on May 20, 2009 at 19:05:43
    using Dillo 0.8.6 on Unknown

    gak tahu nih ... perasaan dua-duanya memulai dalam kondisi standar tanpa tambahan ekstensi atau plugin apa2 ... atau ada yg salah ya di opera saya ... mungkin ada library yg model lama di situ ... nanti coba saya tes pakai os wins aja ...

    mengenai ff atau fx itu kan sekedar singkatan (halaahh saya ini masih juga cari pembenaran ... ) ... hahaha ... inilah kalau gak biasa pake singkatan ... malah biasanya kalau nulis harus lengkap ... makanya kalau kirim sms bisa 2 atau sampai 3 sms sekali kirim .... :D

  14. Comment by Dani Iswara on May 20, 2009 at 22:10:40
    using Firefox 3.0.10 on Gentoo

    nomercy,
    mungkin operanya lagi keberatan dosa di sana.. :)

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